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SB1062 – Vetoed

Posted on | February 27, 2014 | 2 Comments

Another Facebook post & comment on SB1062 that I will post here because my FB settings won’t display it to everyone – and I figured I should have an “apres veto” post. Y’all have read my ramblings thus far, let’s finish the subject off 😉

Comment left on my page:

This isn’t an I told you so post. I read the law and as far as I could tell, no matter how you sliced it up it still was a discriminatory law. If there was any yahoo business owner that didn’t like gays or blacks or hispanics, it would have given them some protection to actively discriminate based off of race or creed. I give a little credit to Gov. Skeletor for vetoing this garbage bill. There are far more pressing matters facing our state. Obama is probably outraged that she vetoed this and is keeping the focus on immigration. Good political strategy on her part.

My comment back:

Apparently you didn’t read the bill (or amendment, rather) because it said no such thing. In fact, businesses here could already choose not to do business with anyone they wanted – and they still can.

This may have been an unnecessary law, written in response to problems in other states which we have not faced (in the states where lawsuits were successful, gender & sexual orientation are recognized as protected classes), but it did nothing to encourage or institutionalize discrimination here. You can’t sue now any more than you could have if the bill had been signed. Only the government can bring such an action. (Well, I think you can try some sort of civil action, but will lose)

In fact, the bill would have made it more difficult to claim a religious defense by adding a religiousness “test” to prove not only that your beliefs are sincerely held, but that serving a customer – or whatever action you are choosing not to do – would “substantially burden” your faith.

So, the bill did nothing but get us some bad press. I am not willing, however, to make decisions on Arizona legislation based on whether the Huffington Post & MSNBC understand it and/or think it is OK.

I really didn’t care which way this one went, veto/don’t veto/whatever, but I did care about the vicious mischaracterization of both the bill and our state. It deserved to be evaluated for what it was – not what George Takei thought about it.

So, yeah, I got vocal about it – but people had their minds made up. Like you.

I don’t like being lectured, I don’t like being called names, and I really hate being bullied, especially by people out of state who have no freakin’ idea WTH they are talking about.

The NFL wants to take the Super Bowl away because that organization filled with thugs & felons can’t grasp the very FIRST amendment in our Bill of Rights? Good riddance! Apple and Marriott want to lecture us about how we ‘should’ do business? STFU

Deal with the issues plaguing your own states and we’ll deal with ours

A rather Left leaning law professor on SB1062:

“But the main thing people miss is there’s no right of action against a bigot in the first place,” Bender said. “The bigot doesn’t need this.”

Governor Brewer’s letter in reference to the veto can be found here

UPDATE: From The Anchoress, re: the divisiveness of this debate

I feel like I’m watching my gay friends get mauled and then watching my Catholic friends get mauled, both by people who have lost the ability to do anything but feel and seethe.


2 Responses to “SB1062 – Vetoed”

  1. John Moore
    February 27th, 2014 @ 11:07 am

    What this whole thing showed was how strongly the PC crowd wants to enforce their cultural hegemony. As you wrote, the bill had little effect. That didn’t matter. The left and their midget helpers in the media didn’t bother to even casually investigate the matter. They know “bigotry” when they see it and the have to stamp it out, no matter what.

    This whole sorry episode once again shows that the left is totalitarian at heart, and the media is their witting helper.

  2. Vox AZ
    February 27th, 2014 @ 11:48 am

    Agreed – it is unfortunate to say the least

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